The wrap

I just took the liberty of adding everyone to an email list to receive new blog posts as soon as they are posted. Anyone who's rather not receive them can opt out themselves via the settings page. I haven't made the blog public yet, as I think that definitely requires consensus, which I'm not sure we really attained, and Greg was not present. My naive argument in favour is that we will enrich the world with our wisdom! Or to put it less facetiously, hopefully our discussion will manifest some of the attributes we value: complexity and imagination, and whether or not the world is listening, whether or not any of this is even intelligible to an outsider, we should be feeding into the general complexity pool.

There's a French term 'esprit d'escalier' translating as 'staircase wit', which is the comeback you only think of once you're on the stairs leaving. I am a chronic sufferer, and these sessions provoke a closely related malady, not sure of the French for it, but it's the decisive argument thought of in the car on the way home. 'l'argument d'auto' maybe? This is why I blog. Anyway, to Martin on the subject of the terrible sell-out of writing for publication, I have two points to make, apart from the obvious point that writing is communication not (or not only) meditation. Firstly, I write literary fiction, not poetry or philosophy. Nobody writes fiction for themselves. Secondly, I'm not writing for the money or the fame, or I'd be trying to write blockbusters. I write for literary journals and anthologies, in my experience generally run by intelligent, discerning, creative people, and when I write for them I don't distort myself, I just try to write the best damn thing I can. Although quality can go unrecognised, taste and understanding always being a factor, generally I believe that it's the good stuff I've written that's gotten published, not the stuff that's been bent and compromised and dulled into palatable form for mass consumption.

In terms of the reward, it's something like this that makes me feel it's worth it - blowing someone's mind and making them want to write.

Anyway, side isssue, but I did feel the need to man the defences of my literary endeavours against the corrupting tide of Martin's ever so subtle deprecation...

So now, to next meeting's topic. The theme is "The world as imagined landscape". Not a question to be answered, a puzzle to be riddled out, or even a Hegelian dialectic, but a theme to riff upon however you see fit. Some reading that you may or may not choose to consider: James Hillman (if you dare), Robert Sardello, Thomas Moore.

What is the relationship between the world and the imagination? Is the world a dream, an essentially imaginal construct? ("imaginal" being Hillman's word for the space that is neither physical nor purely "imaginary", something like a primordial imagination that exists in or under the world.)

Our current science (even our hip new quantum science I believe) would reduce the world to its quantifiable structure, but what of its qualities? Is the whole, in its expressive elegance, reducible? Not just reducible to its parts, but reducible in any way at all. The world's face is highly expressive, it suggests some animating spirit. Is it pure naivete to believe in that spirit?

You don't have to follow any of these riffs yourself. You can bring a poem (your own, someone else's). Or, why not, a fucking stone or a flower or some other expressive object. I don't care. I'm responding to Martin's charge that we weren't dealing with the subject of imagination imaginatively enough. Martin, why don't you bring a mushroom? :)

OK I'm done.

(Sorry Greg, you can see we need the weight of your influence to stabilise the mix, or next thing we'll be prancing like pixies through the tulips.)